Zuigan asked Gantô, “What is the intrinsic, everlasting principle?”
Zuigan said, “What if it moves?”
Gantô said, “You can’t see the intrinsic, everlasting principle.” 
Gantô said, “If you acknowledge it, you are not yet free from the roots and their dust. If you do not acknowledge it, you are immersed in endless birth and death.”



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