A monk asked Hôgen, “I hear that a sutra says, ‘From the basis of non-abiding all dharmas are established.’ What is this basis of non-abiding?” 
Hôgen said, “Form arises from what has no substance yet; name comes from what has no name yet.”
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A monk asked Hôgen, “I hear that a sutra says, ‘From the basis of non-abiding all dharmas are established.’ What is this basis of non-abiding?” 
Hôgen said, “Form arises from what has no substance yet; name comes from what has no name yet.”
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